tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post7030082490295448779..comments2024-03-26T05:22:38.867-04:00Comments on Historic Alleys: Itty Achutan and the Hortus MalabaricusMaddyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-77667533635492720502016-11-22T01:20:02.890-05:002016-11-22T01:20:02.890-05:00Dear Maddy,
I saw the word Ezhava Chekavar Chekav...Dear Maddy,<br /><br />I saw the word Ezhava Chekavar Chekavar in below paragraph <br />------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Karappuram Kadakkarappally Kollattu Veettil Itty Achuthan<br /><br />The Hortus Indicus Malabaricus speaks in its preface about Vaidyar (doctor) Itty Achuthan, a reputed vaidyar of the Ezhava Chekavar community as the main force shyamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03242768515318985234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-21106808331236444402015-10-22T20:07:28.734-04:002015-10-22T20:07:28.734-04:00Cassandra,
Thanks and you are welcome, please go a...Cassandra,<br />Thanks and you are welcome, please go ahead..<br />BTW all the articles in the three blogsites - historic alleys, maddys ramblings and musical avenues are written by me...Do let me know which one was confusing, i would be pleased to clarify/elebaorateMaddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-61070168579044249642015-10-22T14:06:41.156-04:002015-10-22T14:06:41.156-04:00Hi---I can't find another way to contact you, ...Hi---I can't find another way to contact you, so I hope it's ok if I ask whether I might quote some of this article to accompany an illustration from the Hortus Malabaricus, in a post on my blog https://secretgardening.wordpress.com/,<br />with all attributions & a link, of course.<br /><br />I'm a little confused by what-all is contained in this site, but what I've read of secretgardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15650883324027210560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-91751627476984845592014-06-27T08:28:34.664-04:002014-06-27T08:28:34.664-04:00MArcus
No - I do not believe you can find this on ...MArcus<br />No - I do not believe you can find this on the internet. Perhaps you can find the original on the net if you look around, not the English translation.<br /><br />https://archive.org/details/HortusMalabaricus<br /><br />check this link if you want to buy the english book<br />http://www.hindu.com/2004/02/19/stories/2004021911630300.htmMaddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-41547582109133058402014-06-25T18:08:25.438-04:002014-06-25T18:08:25.438-04:00Hello
I'm interested in the K. S. Manilal tran...Hello<br />I'm interested in the K. S. Manilal translation of the book Hortus Malabaricus. I can't find it on the internet.<br />thanks.<br /><br />if you would please post a link to it, or atleast tell me if you can send it in a email.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01037843988930075227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-65713772795563894582014-02-23T08:03:22.994-05:002014-02-23T08:03:22.994-05:00Thanks Mr pai
for the inputs, appreciated..Thanks Mr pai <br />for the inputs, appreciated..Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-11742440703802811362014-02-22T02:41:38.270-05:002014-02-22T02:41:38.270-05:00The making of Hortus had two stages.One where Br. ...The making of Hortus had two stages.One where Br. Mathew,Ranga Bhat,Vinayak Pandit and Appu Bhat were involved.But the Dutch Botanist Paul Herman pointed out this to Van Rheed and asked him to get better pictures of parts of plant and seek the person who knew local language.So Itty Achuthan was brought in .But the Ranga Bhat and others continued.Since they were present in both the stages their N.Muralidhara Paihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17297561504411191140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-17181408539834226332012-10-27T09:05:12.751-04:002012-10-27T09:05:12.751-04:00Thanks Aji..
Hortus malabaricus is available in ma...Thanks Aji..<br />Hortus malabaricus is available in malayalam & english as well, thanks to Dr Manilal. Check around in Kerala, it is a 12 volume book Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-61950287852765577822012-10-27T02:56:23.303-04:002012-10-27T02:56:23.303-04:00I read what is given about Hortus Malabaricus. It...I read what is given about Hortus Malabaricus. It is heard that this book has ancient house names of Kerala. Do you have any idea of it? I do not have a copy of to check and I do not know the Dutch version in internet.<br /><br />Could you please help?<br /><br />I shall be thankful to you, if you do so.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br />Aji Matthew<br />nazarethindia@gmail.com<br /><br /> Aji Matthew (Varghese M M)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04288305801437876551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-19885729139193076972012-06-30T16:17:15.085-04:002012-06-30T16:17:15.085-04:00thanks mr Chnadran..
glad it was illuminating..
an...thanks mr Chnadran..<br />glad it was illuminating..<br />and we must all thank Mr Manilal for his tireless work on this subjectMaddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-13563715897129513282012-06-26T15:41:14.699-04:002012-06-26T15:41:14.699-04:00To: Maddy.
In April 2012, we were visiting Michig...To: Maddy.<br /><br />In April 2012, we were visiting Michigan in United States for the graduation of our nephew from University of Michigan. We stayed at Sheraton in Novi. Two “paintings” prominently displayed in our room were those of some plants. But the paintings had no signatures nor anything in English. But I was pleasantly surprised to see the captions in 3 languages: Latin, Mal (for Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02517153249848747529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-75866742576195327372012-02-24T17:16:23.187-05:002012-02-24T17:16:23.187-05:00thanks VKS..
Botany does not interest me, so I ha...thanks VKS..<br /><br />Botany does not interest me, so I have not spent hours studying the Latin HM..<br /><br />It is only the period, people & history that interest me.Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-47507577758699636882012-02-24T08:30:56.672-05:002012-02-24T08:30:56.672-05:00Thanks for your prompt response. Regarding the Mal...Thanks for your prompt response. Regarding the Malabar region, we have to take into consideration Van Reede's specification, given in his Preface in Vol.3.<br /> By the way have gone through any of the volumes of Hortus? If not there is no meaning in proceeding further. Because that is the only record of that period we have access to refer to. So much for the time being.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00794450326551272810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-54369608699350105332012-02-22T13:15:09.996-05:002012-02-22T13:15:09.996-05:00I forgot to add. see the map on the right bottom o...I forgot to add. see the map on the right bottom of the blog, meant to show the malabar coastline. I believe it was from the Dutch period.Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-46517097049511141822012-02-22T13:13:04.038-05:002012-02-22T13:13:04.038-05:00Thanks Mr Shenoy.
My pen name is Maddy, real name ...Thanks Mr Shenoy.<br />My pen name is Maddy, real name being Ullattil Manmadhan.<br />Regretfully I am not aware of the Mathrubhumi issues.<br /><br />I will try to find it and check it out. Regarding the definition of malabar, it is a little difficult as different writers have written it differently. While convention established between Mt Deli & Comari, the Portuguese extenbded it to Goa Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-57906632268622599332012-02-22T10:35:33.498-05:002012-02-22T10:35:33.498-05:00Many thanks, Mr Maddy, for your post of 19th. Febr...Many thanks, Mr Maddy, for your post of 19th. February, 2012. <br /> First of all, why don't you give your real name in such a descriptive research work. <br /> Regarding Hortus Malabaricus there ate so many anomalies. There is a big tug of war going on in Mathrubhumi Weekly, Dtd.1st.Jan. 2012. onwards. It is like in the old tale of six blind men describing an elephant, by touching its Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00794450326551272810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-80055168732719506032012-02-19T08:47:44.086-05:002012-02-19T08:47:44.086-05:00Thanks VK Shenoy..
thanks for the clarification o...Thanks VK Shenoy..<br /><br />thanks for the clarification on the Itty Achutan picture.Perhaps you must suggest a correction to the Wikipedia guys too.<br /><br />In a way all paintings, especially portraits are likenesses only and have in the old times been grossly exaggerated to get the subject looking better. So even paintings of kings and queens may not have represented the original!!<br /><Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-45794672650062226592012-02-19T08:36:12.281-05:002012-02-19T08:36:12.281-05:00thanks julian for your comment.
while there were s...thanks julian for your comment.<br />while there were some ezhavas who were very well educated, there were a good majority from the tradesmen category who did not have the same opportunities that were evenly available to the higher classes.Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-17419583992134081392012-02-15T12:44:41.992-05:002012-02-15T12:44:41.992-05:001. Congratulations for the studious blog. In thes...1. Congratulations for the studious blog. In these hectic days there is no time to read completly. Hence a few opinions based on previous studies of the Hortus English translation.<br />2. The photo of Itti Achudan is not of any person, living or dead. <br />Because, it is a pure conceptual drawing done by my friend, artist Babu kandanad. There is no portrait painting of Itti Achutan, includedAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00794450326551272810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-69163059602397254662011-11-27T11:39:06.775-05:002011-11-27T11:39:06.775-05:00"appears that the Ezhava caste used tradition..."appears that the Ezhava caste used traditional old script as they were not formally lettered (in those cruel days only upper castes had traditional schooling)"<br /><br />This is not true unless conditions drastically changed by mid 18th century.<br /><br />Please check Dharampal's Beautiful Tree which quotes only from results of surveys carried out by the British about traditionalJulianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12132525552127001861noreply@blogger.com