tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post3745003109956191695..comments2024-03-26T05:22:38.867-04:00Comments on Historic Alleys: The mystery of the Nambiar NakhudaMaddyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-11929442659232271372020-04-22T13:17:23.075-04:002020-04-22T13:17:23.075-04:00This Indian Nakhuda has been variously described a...This Indian Nakhuda has been variously described as Nmby Rwy /Nbr dwy/ Nby rwy in the Geniza documents. <br />Prof.David Shulman of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem has suggested that this name could be vocalized as Nambi Raya or Nambi Rawu. (Nambi-nobleman and Raya-King)<br /><br />Ref:-Prof.David Shulman, as cited by S.D Goitein, M. Friedman India Traders of the Middle Ages: Documents from drsabuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00183290616116455978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-12083182043708134112011-07-05T17:56:37.020-04:002011-07-05T17:56:37.020-04:00thanks thoufeek.
let me see- i will try and get a ...thanks thoufeek.<br />let me see- i will try and get a copy of the manuscript<br />i am sure your knowledge of judeo Aramaic would come in useful in this case, i may need your help to get a few other things also checked.Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-32248861015897452732011-07-05T08:33:17.981-04:002011-07-05T08:33:17.981-04:00Hai Maddy,
Regarding Fadiyar, I do have a small p...Hai Maddy,<br /><br />Regarding Fadiyar, I do have a small point it might not be right.<br /><br />Here in cochin there is many Konkani and Chettiyar families, Among them there are many family with sir name Padiyar,<br />I contacted Dr. Padiyar a resident of cochin. and asked regarding their family history. and he explained<br />The origin of the word Padiyar is from a sanskrit word Prathihara Thoufeek Zakriyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13957357219415958248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-63370388028545474772011-07-05T08:25:18.816-04:002011-07-05T08:25:18.816-04:00Hai Maddy,
Regarding Fadiyar, I do have a small p...Hai Maddy,<br /><br />Regarding Fadiyar, I do have a small point it might not be right.<br /><br />Here in cochin there is many Konkani and Chettiyar families, Among them there are many family with sir name Padiyar,<br />I contacted Dr. Padiyar a resident of cochin. and asked regarding their family history. and he explained<br />The origin of the word Padiyar is from a sanskrit word Prathihara Thoufeek Zakriyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13957357219415958248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-41610482528774336542010-08-31T07:35:25.568-04:002010-08-31T07:35:25.568-04:00The term "Nakhuda" cannot be translated ...The term "Nakhuda" cannot be translated to Na+khuda (No God, or Godless) if so... "Moulana" too be translated as Moula+na (Godless or No God). And Moulana is a term used for high profile muslim scholars. Therefore translating Nakhuda to Godless is baseless and it is as similar as translating the term "understand" to "under +stand". <br />Nakhuda is a Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01997477775232282318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-31527186535393490472009-05-29T09:27:41.653-04:002009-05-29T09:27:41.653-04:00Thanks Maddy. Nav + Khuda (नाव + खुदा) Got reconci...Thanks Maddy. Nav + Khuda (नाव + खुदा) Got reconciled.P.N. Subramanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01420464521174227821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-37534550200661522232009-05-28T15:28:15.015-04:002009-05-28T15:28:15.015-04:00BTW - In Arabic, I think the word for No is 'la', ...BTW - In Arabic, I think the word for No is 'la', not Na.Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-58437604255853549622009-05-28T15:21:14.886-04:002009-05-28T15:21:14.886-04:00thanks CKR, PNS..
A quick line of clarification o...thanks CKR, PNS..<br /><br />A quick line of clarification on the term nakhuda.<br /><br />There is general concurrence that Nakhudah means owner-captain and this eventually became a surname. However, the question has always been if the Nakhudah was actually the chief captain or ship owner. In post 16th century writing, it meant captain though there is an Arabic term mu’allim for captain. Here Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-64853450726815592052009-05-28T04:55:24.491-04:002009-05-28T04:55:24.491-04:00Very interesting post. While reading I was also pu...Very interesting post. While reading I was also puzzled with the term Nakhuda. Later the explanations appeared but some how I am unable to reconcile to the idea that ship owning merchants were being referred to as Nakhudas. To me it denotes non-believers.P.N. Subramanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01420464521174227821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-258499896042719014.post-6052544793991947422009-05-27T05:36:01.267-04:002009-05-27T05:36:01.267-04:00This is indeed a major contribution to Malabar his...This is indeed a major contribution to Malabar history. Not many historians are known to be working on the rich documentation made available from Genizah. <br />Nambiar could very well have been from P.Kollom, as the Zamorin's rule over the port was at best titular (Pl see our posting on Ananthapuram)<br />Pattanam is used as a synonym for port city (see:excavations in Pattanam near Kodungalloor)Calicut Heritage Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14760552324718923006noreply@blogger.com